The World We Want: The NAAEE Podcast

Wild mushrooms grow on a mossy log

Imagine a world where communities thrive, curiosity sparks change, and hope isn't just a wish—it's a plan in action.

Welcome to The World We Want, the NAAEE podcast that's not just talking about a better future—we're bringing it to life, one inspiring story at a time.

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Gus Medina and Kathy McGlauflin

Transforming Environmental Education from Knowledge to Action | S1 Ep7

Delve into how EE programs have evolved from awareness to action. Kathy McGlauflin and Gus Medina examine how these shifts, along with changing methods and technology, have shaped what it means to connect people to nature in a modern world.

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Esteban Gast. Photo by Andrew Max Levy

Teaching Through Laughter: A New Bridge to Climate Conversations with Esteban Gast | S1 Episode 6

How can humor break down barriers and ignite hope in the face of climate change? Comedian and climate educator Esteban Gast reveals how a shift in communication can inspire new awareness and action. 

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Kathayoon Khalil stands in front of a large screen, presenting on the next generation of zoo and aquarium leaders.

Shattering Assumptions About the Rules of Conservation Education with Dr. Kathayoon Khalil | S1 Episode 5

Dr. Kathayoon Khalil shares how educators and conservationists can inspire action, build partnerships, and reimagine how we connect with each other and the planet.

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Upcoming Guests

Mary Ford and Anna Rathmann are interviewed for The World We Want podcast.

Anna Rathmann and Mary Ford

Episode coming soon! Mary and Anna connect the groundbreaking work of Jane Goodall with the Roots and Shoots initiatives, a program allowing youth around the world to guide their visions for a better world. 

CJ Greco

CJ Greco

Episode coming soon! Learn more about CJ's experience as a nonformal educator and a 2024 EE 30 Under 30 > 

Stefan Moss

Stefan Moss

Episode coming soon! Find out more about Stefan's experience as an environmental scientist, educator, and consultant >

“The world I want is a place where we ask hard questions, where we are sober about that verb 'love' and genuinely ask ourselves out loud, in public, with and in front of others. 

How much do we love? How much do we love this planet? How much do we love our kids? How much do we love our neighbors?  

It's the hardest question facing us as human beings. And I would love a world in which very publicly, very loudly, we talk about what it means to love.” 

Greg Behr
"When You Wonder, You're Learning" co-author
S1 E4

Ryan and Gregg Episode 4 feature