The World We Want: The NAAEE Podcast

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Imagine a world where communities thrive, curiosity sparks change, and hope isn't just a wish—it's a plan in action.

Welcome to The World We Want, the NAAEE podcast that's not just talking about a better future—we're bringing it to life, one inspiring story at a time.

Join us as we chat with people from across the globe who care about education and the environment—the trailblazers, visionary leaders, and everyday heroes making a difference.

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Teaching Through Laughter: A New Bridge to Climate Conversations with Esteban Gast | S1 Episode 6

How can humor break down barriers and ignite hope in the face of climate change? Comedian and climate educator Esteban Gast reveals how a shift in communication can inspire new awareness and action. From navigating diverse audiences to building bridges through laughter and shared experiences, Esteban and his cohort of comedians bring fresh perspectives on hope and creativity in times of real challenge.

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Kathayoon Khalil stands in front of a large screen, presenting on the next generation of zoo and aquarium leaders.

Shattering Assumptions About the Rules of Conservation Education with Dr. Kathayoon Khalil | S1 Episode 5

Dr. Kathayoon Khalil shares how educators and conservationists can inspire action, build partnerships, and reimagine how we connect with each other and the planet.

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Ryan Rydzewski and Greg Behr stand in front of a yellow bridge in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

"When You Wonder, You're Learning" with Authors Gregg Behr and Ryan Rydzewski | S1 Episode 4

Gregg Behr and Ryan Rydzewski invite us into Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, a world created by a man grounded in science, pedagogy, and a deep understanding of children’s emotional and intellectual needs, with a meticulous approach to inspiring curiosity and wonder.   

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Vik Mohan

Exploring the Healthy Heart of Environmental Education with Vik Mohan | S1 Episode 3

Dr. Vik Mohan unlocks the key to environmental, physical, and mental health with the best medicine: listening.  Find out how listening, trust, and well-being have created a path to improved community partnerships and long-term health. 

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Upcoming Guests

Gus Medina and Kathy McGlauflin

Gus Medina and Kathy McGlauflin

Episode coming soon! Gus and Kathy share their journeys of EE through the years and their shared passion for its future.

CJ Greco

CJ Greco

Episode coming soon! Learn more about CJ's experience as a nonformal educator and a 2024 EE 30 Under 30 > 

Stefan Moss

Stefan Moss

Episode coming soon! Find out more about Stefan's experience as an environmental scientist, educator, and consultant >

“The world I want is a place where we ask hard questions, where we are sober about that verb 'love' and genuinely ask ourselves out loud, in public, with and in front of others. 

How much do we love? How much do we love this planet? How much do we love our kids? How much do we love our neighbors?  

It's the hardest question facing us as human beings. And I would love a world in which very publicly, very loudly, we talk about what it means to love.” 

Greg Behr
"When You Wonder, You're Learning" co-author
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